Comments on: Long Hill Climb – Buxton CC http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/2160/training/long-hill-climb-buxton-cc/ Cycling info - advice and tips Fri, 20 Dec 2013 10:22:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8 By: Grinton moor and another trip to Arkengarthdale | Cycling Uphill http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/2160/training/long-hill-climb-buxton-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-334086 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 09:58:25 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=2160#comment-334086 […] hoped that ‘equipment angst’ of Long Hill would be no more. (What’s best bike to use?). But, even after several goes, I couldn’t […]

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By: David Kinniburgh http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/2160/training/long-hill-climb-buxton-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-58691 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 08:46:46 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=2160#comment-58691 I think it is more like 400 ft not metres so divide your gradient by 3.3 and you get 4.5% which is about what was originally quoted.

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By: Simon E http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/2160/training/long-hill-climb-buxton-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-54398 Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:02:32 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=2160#comment-54398 Steve – interesting calculations, thankyou.

If a 1kg reduction in weight (is this bike or bike+rider?) will save 10 seconds over 12 minutes – a 1.3% time gain – then it suggests that lighter wheels don’t really make a significant difference to your time.

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By: tejvan http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/2160/training/long-hill-climb-buxton-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-48273 Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:51:51 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=2160#comment-48273 To enter you will need to be in a club affiliated to CTT http://www.cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/Beginners/EnteringTimeTrials/tabid/635/Default.aspx

I think Scottish time trials are fine for a qualifying time, (though you might want to check)

Hutch once did national hill climb on the cat and fiddle. He finished 2nd to Mark Lovatt. I’m not sure, but I guess Hutchinson has retired from hill climbs, he was never a specialist climber.

Most pros won’t enter, after long season on road, they are probably thinking of winter break rather than one last race up a hill. Though of course Dan Fleeman (Team Raleigh) will probably be defending his title.

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By: Marco http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/2160/training/long-hill-climb-buxton-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-48235 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:34:18 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=2160#comment-48235 Tejvan, thank you very much for your communication, its appreciated! a couple of questions for you, since the hill is shallow, do you think Hutch, Downing, Wiggins, Hales etc etc may turn up for a easy win? Also im doing/ have done a lot of HCs in Scotland, would these be ok for a qualifing time? How would the organiser know if thats good or not? and whats the minimum British Cycling licence I would need to do a RTTC event? indeed, do i need a RTTC day licence? I’ve got a Bronze BC licence, as all HC’s and small RRs and TTs here are Reg C+ so i don’t need anything more. So your going for a 45 ring on the front, would this be incase of a headwind?
That would help a lot, thanks!
marco

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By: tejvan http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/2160/training/long-hill-climb-buxton-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-48089 Mon, 06 Jun 2011 12:29:26 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=2160#comment-48089 Hi Marco,

You can definitely do hill on ordinary road bike. It is debatable whether you will be any quicker on time trial bike.

I think I used big ring all the way up. I may just put a 45 chain ring for national champs.

To enter you need a cycling time trials form (you may need a qualifying time on another hill climb.

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By: Marco http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/2160/training/long-hill-climb-buxton-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-48086 Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:43:12 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=2160#comment-48086 Nice work sir! thats some achievement to beat an Olympic champion and a course record! Your blog is certainly very helpful, being from North East Scotland ive no idea about how to go for the RTTC HC champs this year, what the hill is like or indeed, what bike to take down with me! Thanks! oh, did you need to use your little ring at all on Long Hill TJ??

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By: cycling training plans http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/2160/training/long-hill-climb-buxton-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-42356 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 09:02:56 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=2160#comment-42356 Congrads on the course record… I’ve only just got back into the cycling scene this season and loving it. I’ve lost a ton of weigth and fell fantastic. Thanks for your many articles, they are very helpful and inspiring. All the best for the up coming season.

cheers

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By: steve http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/2160/training/long-hill-climb-buxton-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-40686 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:50:35 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=2160#comment-40686 Thought this simplified version might interest you. I had to make assumptions on the height gained by taking 3% as the average gradient which gave me 354m height gained.

bike + rider weight (kg) x 9.8 x elevation gain (meters) / time (seconds) = power (watts). Add 10% for rolling and air resistance.

For me that works out at a jaw-dropping 360W to do it in 12m20secs, I can crank out 340W for a 10 mile. Hutch averaged just shy of 400W for his hour attempt, but he weighs a lot more than me :)

On this 3% climb, for every kilo you can shed, you need approx 5watts less power on the climb, or will reduce your time by approx 10seconds.

You are looking at around 70% of effort to overcome aerodynamic drag, the rest is overcoming the gradient. This all excludes any wind.

So, if you can be comfortable on the time-trial bike and can get some mega light wheels (1g shaved on wheel weight equates to around 1.5g of dead weight) I would go for that route. I would advise against fixed because of the constant change in wind direction and the flat-ish section.

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By: Clip On Aero Bars | Cycling UK http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/2160/training/long-hill-climb-buxton-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-39497 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:40:28 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=2160#comment-39497 [...] this year’s national hill climb (on long hill – 4.4 miles, average gradient 3%) , I am going to experiment with some clip on aero bars for my road [...]

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