Comments on: David Walsh on Lance Armstrong Life ban http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/5827/procycling/david-walsh-on-lance-armstrong-life-ban/ Cycling info - advice and tips Fri, 20 Dec 2013 10:22:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8 By: AJM http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/5827/procycling/david-walsh-on-lance-armstrong-life-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-100607 Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:38:30 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=5827#comment-100607 I have spent most of my life as a runner/athletics coach but have used cycling to get through injury etc. and have now taken it up as my sport due to back injury and surgery.

I love all sports and always watch The Tour De France and marvel at the skills and fitness level of the Athletes on show

As a coach in athletics I have to say that I never came into contact with or know anybody who had deliberately taken any performance enhancing drugs.

I have been involved and trained with some top national/international middle and long distance athletes so my experience has not just been at grass roots level.

All the coaches and athletes I have come into contact with have been massively against it but time and time again at the highest level people are being “found out”

Unfortunately this is a sad indightment of the modern world in any field of sport where money is involved!

I watch most sports and have to believe that “the best of the best” haven’t cheated and take what we are seeing at face value.

This maybe naive but you cannot just presume everybody is a cheat!

In my experience this is not the case and to think otherwise would place all top sporting achievement into doubt and make sport irrelevant!

All these cheats do is damage the sports they tell us they love.

Unfortunately whether he cheated or not, Mr Armstrong has made a very good life for himself off the back of it and, whilst there is advantage to be gained it is a problem we will have to accept will be there for a long time to come.

Personally when things like this happen I just find it very sad.
I remember watching him achieve most of his wins on the TV and marvelling at the spectacle just to learn now that it could have been drug enhanced and another athlete has been denied their chance of glory.

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By: frosty http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/5827/procycling/david-walsh-on-lance-armstrong-life-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-100554 Wed, 29 Aug 2012 23:09:19 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=5827#comment-100554 I agree, the never failed a drugs test doesn’t really hold true for a number of reasons. The ones you mentioned above and also due the fact that biological passport data doesn’t return positive or negatives, rather it is a means of monitoring athletes blood data for signs of doping.

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By: Hurumph http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/5827/procycling/david-walsh-on-lance-armstrong-life-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-99928 Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:52:53 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=5827#comment-99928 I wish I could still believe in his innocence but the ‘show me one failed drug test’ is the straw that broke the camels back for me. He claimed to have passed 500 tests but the most he ever took coud ony have been 230-240. Several of those he DID fail but he was able to persuade the authorities not to make use of them Some were in the initial testing for EPO phase and others he got a retrospective prescription written out to cover him. There are also many that claim to have been paid to keep quiet, or pressurised a very great deal to keep quiet.

The case against Armstrong is claimed to consist of testimonies from more than a dozen witnesses, including eyewitness reports from team-mates that amount to “overwhelming evidence” that Armstrong was not only guilty of using an array of illegal performance enhancing methods, but also played a vital part in their distribution and use by other riders.

In the same statement, Usada said: “Numerous witnesses provided evidence to Usada based on personal knowledge acquired, either through direct observation of doping activity by Armstrong, or through Armstrong’s admissions of doping to them that Armstrong used EPO [erythropoietin], blood transfusions, testosterone and cortisone during the period from before 1998 through 2005, and that he had previously used EPO, testosterone and HGH [human growth hormone] through 1996.

“Witnesses also provided evidence that Lance Armstrong gave to them, encouraged them to use and administered doping products or methods, including EPO, blood transfusions, testosterone and cortisone during the period from 1999 through 2005. Additionally, scientific data showed Mr Armstrong’s use of blood manipulation including EPO or blood transfusions during Mr Armstrong’s comeback to cycling in the 2009 Tour de France.”

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By: Tim http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/5827/procycling/david-walsh-on-lance-armstrong-life-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-99757 Sun, 26 Aug 2012 02:16:36 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=5827#comment-99757 I read parts of Armstrong’s statement in the news stories. Walsh says “he’s accepted the charges against him”, which is clearly nonsense, so I’m not even going to read the rest of what he wrote, let alone take it seriously. Saying “life’s too short to argue with organisations I no longer respect” is *not* the same as saying “fair play, I’m guilty” whether the person saying it is lying or not.

I admit that, like many people, I’d like to to believe Armstrong’s innocence and that colours my judgement. But even considering that, surely Armstrong’s argument – “show me one failed drug test”, some physical evidence, – holds some merit? So I’m with Marcus. Maybe one of cycling’s greatest heros *is* a fraud, but its governing body is rubbish either way, because they’re making accusations they refuse to (or can’t) back up.

Really disappointing.

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By: Marcus (Chicago) http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/5827/procycling/david-walsh-on-lance-armstrong-life-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-99554 Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:34:08 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=5827#comment-99554 Disagree…I was a very bad day for cycling. I WAS a growing fan of cycling. I’ve had enough! This is obviously not a judicious trial against Mr. Armstrong. The truth cannot be known without physical evidence and all other evidence is circumstantial. Regardless of your position on Armstrong this is a deathblow to the sport of cycling as either there is a biased governing body willing depose its greatest star with circumstantial evidence or a sport where to be exceptionalu need to dope. What does it say about a sport when the majority of it’s champions have been considered cheats. The sport is doomed to remain/decline into the under levels of International Sport. I will not be following next year’s “Tour”. A sport is only as strong as it’s interest level……..One American done with cycling!

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By: Hurumph http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/5827/procycling/david-walsh-on-lance-armstrong-life-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-99475 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:33:58 +0000 http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/?p=5827#comment-99475 A good day for cycling – it HAS to be shown to be clean or will lose all credibility as a sport and a pasttime – but a sad day because I once believed the image of a clean winner and a star has died.

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